I tried to move us forward in the discussion without ruffling feathers too much. I simply asked for current data and for people with experience to join in. Mod note - you love to beat on that company but get a life - they may well deserve it but state proven facts only.īill BlakeWow. You can leave me out and tell everybody (who will listen) how Edison and his teams didn't really know about the Edison batteries -īut you do. Sounds like you don't need any more info from me, Mr. Who else out there has personal experience? I can read all the references I want about hunting, but to actually be a hunter I need to step into the woods with my weapon - AND - to be most efficient and effective, it would be nice to get some knowledge from one of the locals who have hunted the same woods before. You are right in that it takes a long time to build this bank of information. How long is that "very long period" that Edison referenced? Was it affected by physical use conditions? How hard were the batteries being pushed? What was the rate of decay vs charge / discharge characteristics employed? Is the rate of decay linear? How is it affected by amp draw? (FYI - My amp-hour ratings all all over the map depending on my draw rates.) Is iron poisioning worse when the cells sit charged or when they are being cycled daily? How is capactity loss affected with % discharge in the cycling. If we want to evaluate how bad (or not bad) this technology is for the purpose we desire to use it in, we need people with personal "hands-on" experiences with these cells (or at least this technology) so as to share and compare data with. No need for us to keep singing the same song over and over. We know the technology has issues with the electrolyte - so do LA batteries (even more so). They are references of information, but what is missing (as in most old patents) is the data that backs them up (and details with regards to how the data was gathered). To me that is not the kind of data I seek. Someday, when time permits, before saying too much and risk playing the fool on the world wide web. Edison ever did and I want to dissect them all Somebody was asleep at da switch on dis one. ![]() It's just words, as you say, based on many, many experiments over many years. Edison himself.Īll under the threat of prison if it's not on the up and up. There is an overwhelming amount of data for you that confirms every word ever spoken on this matter byĬonfirmed data signed by 2 witnesses and Mr. Since you found that 1908 Patent just go forward 16 years to the 1924 Battery Patents and behold all that His Excellency ![]() I have learned not to accept just words so as to avoid the partial truths trap.Certainly Robert. When i read patents I evaluate the data and compare it to their conclusions. I have worked in chemical research for 35+ years and I live by facts and data.
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